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Jones, Fred

I really need help trying to find the correct story for Fred Jones, who gave his life for us all, there is a mix up as can be seen by the newspaper reports of his death, so any help would be gratefully received.

Cheshire Observer 27 November 1943

DEATH OF GNR. FRED JONES, R.A.

Notification has been received by his wife of the death, while on active service in Italy of Gunner Fred JONES, R.A. (searchlights).   He was the son of Mr. & Mrs. Frederick JONES of 42, Spring Street, Connah’s Quay.    Gunner JONES, who was 25, enlisted in the Militia in June 1939, and went abroad in August last.   In civil life he was employed at the steelworks of John Summers and Sons. Ltd.   He leaves two young daughters.

Chester Chronicle 11th December 1943 (Page 3. Col 4)

KILLED IN ITALY

News has been received by his wife of the death, on active service, of Gunner Fred JONES, R.A.    He was the son of Mr. & Mrs. Edward JONES, Spring Street, Connah’s Quay, and an old Scholar of Custom House Lane and Deeside Central School.   He joined the Militia in June 1939 and went abroad last August.   Before the war he was employed at Messrs. Summers.

His father is said to be both Edward and Frederick, both on the newspaper reports so wondered if he had the two names i.e. Frederick Edward or visa versa, and at first I thought they were clerical errors, but on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission he is named as Edward, however the 1939 National Register put paid to that theory:-

1939 National Register  (Taken on the 29th September 1939) shows the name of his Mother the same as on the CWGC, but the name of the father on the two newspaper reports and the CWGC do not gel with the name on the Register  – Iorwerth William Jones, did Edward (Frederick) die and Margaret Mary remarry a JONES?)

Jones Household (3 People)

42 Spring Street , Connah’s Quay U.D., Flintshire, Wales

Margaret Mary Jones    12 Dec 1885        Female Unpaid Domestic Duties Married              64           1

Iorwerth William Jones  04 Jan 1882         Male      Steelworks Labourer Ar Married               64           2

Robert Henry     Jones    21 May 1915       Male      Steelworks Labourer Arme          Single    64           3

I did find a marriage in LLanasa Parish Registers – Marriages – Page 61 No. 122. – 30th January 1909 Iorwerth William JONES, 27, Bachelor Labourer, Llanasa,(No father’s details written on the Certificate)  & Margaret Mary JONES, 23, Spinster, LLanasa, William JONES, Labourer. (After Banns) – Witnesses:- William MACDONALD, Frederick JONES & Maggie ROBERTS.

Please note the Witness – Frederick Jones.

There is a birth of a Fred Jones, in 1918 (Flintshire (Mold)    FLNT/55/8) and I have confirmed his father’s name was Iorwerth William JONES.

I do not know anything about Fred’s early life, but his Royal Artillery Attestation Book entry was for the 1938, so he was in the Army before the  war and would have been one of the first to be posted abroad probably.

I have the Casualty Card for Fred and it tells us that sadly he died as a result of a Motor Accident and he was born and a resident of Connah’s Quay.

The Casualty List tells us that he had died in an accident on the 30th October 1943.

He was obviously loved as can be seen by the inscription on his gravestone and his family put his name forward to be added on the War Memorial.

MEMORIES OF A SMILING FACE A LINK WE CAN NEVER REPLACE ALWAYS LOVING AND KIND THE DEAREST GOD COULD FIND

I know by the Commonwealth War Graves Commission Citation, that Fed had married Margaret and she lived in Gallowhill, Paisley, Renfrewshire, but I have no knowledge of this at all so any help would be gratefully received.


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