Name of Researcher / Enw’r ymchwylydd: Mavis Williams
Name of Memorial / Enw’r gofeb: Saltney
Name / Enw: Roberts, Joseph Alfred
Regiment/Catrawd: 8th Bn Gloucestershire Regiment ( Formerly South Wales Borderers.)
Service Rank and Number / Rheng gwasanaeth a rhif: Private 38549 (formerly 46134)
Military Cemetery/Memorial / Fynwent milwrol: Elzenwalle Brasserie Cemetery
Ref No Grave or Memorial / Rhif cyfeirnod bedd: II. B. 3
Country of Cemetery or Memorial / Gwlad y fynwent neu gofeb: Belgium
Medals Awarded / Medalau a ddyfarnwyd: Not known
Date of Death: 19th September 1917
Date and Circumstances of Death / Dyddiad ac amgylchiadau marwolaeth:
Died of Wounds 19th September 1917, age 21 years
Joseph Alfred Roberts was born circa 1899 in Saltney, the son of Alfred & Hannah Roberts, and the only census I can find the family on is the 1901 census, they seem to have disappeared by the 1911 census, although one of their children is seen, I think, on the 1911 working as a servant.
In 1901 the family were living in Saltney Road, Lache-cum-Saltney, Hawarden, Flintshire. Alfred Roberts,34, was head of the household and a Bricksetter, he had been born in Denbighshire, no town given. His wife Hannah Roberts, also 34, had been born in Ruabon, Denbighshire. Their son, William Arthur, 9 and daughter, Mary Catherine, 7 had both been born in Broughton, Flintshire. Sons Joseph Alfred, 2 and Frederick Ernest, 1 had both been born in Saltney, Flintshire.
I do think that baby Frederick Ernest was to die at the age of two, as there is a death certificate for a child with the same name and is registered in Hawarden in 1902 (Flintshire (Mold) HAW/29/35).
A Mary Catherine Roberts, age 17, a Housemaid, born in Bretton, Flintshire, is seen on the 1911 census living at 64, Watergate Street, Chester, Cheshire, In the household of Henrietta Ellis, her 3 sons and 3 daughters,with 1 Grandson, and another servant.
The rest of the Roberts family have disappeared, so any help would be gratefully received.
I can only find 2Army Records for Joseph Alfred, one – Joseph Alfred Roberts in the UK, Soldiers Died in the Great War, 1914-1919 tells us that he was born in Stone-Bridge, which is in Saltney, Flintshire, he enlisted in Chester and died of wounds. It also tells that he was formerly 46134, of the South Wales Borderers.
Joseph Alfred Roberts in the UK, Army Registers of Soldiers’ Effects, 1901-1929 telsl us that the Sole Legatee was his father Alfred, paid £ 2 8s 9d on the 17th Jaunuary 1918 and the War Gratuity of £3.0s 0d on the 10th November 1919. Presumably his father Alfred was still alive on these dates.
I cannot find any Medal Cards, but will keep on looking for any information, he must have been loved and remembered by someone, possibly family, as his name was put forward for the War Memorial.