Jones, Joseph Elias

Name of Researcher / Enw’r ymchwylydd: Mavis Williams

Name of Memorial / Enw’r gofeb: Connahs Quay

Name / Enw: Jones, Joseph Elias

Regiment/Catrawd: Prince of Wales’s Volunteers South Lancashire Regiment 2nd Bn (formerly 8th Bn Cheshire Regiment)

Service Rank and Number / Rheng gwasanaeth a rhif: Lance Corporal 16425 (Formerly 12848)

Military Cemetery/Memorial / Fynwent milwrol: Ypres (Menin Gate) Memorial

Ref No Grave or Memorial / Rhif cyfeirnod bedd: Panel 37

Country of Cemetery or Memorial / Gwlad y fynwent neu gofeb: Belgium

Medals Awarded / Medalau a ddyfarnwyd: Victory & British Medals and 15 Star

Date of Death: 3rd August 1917

Date and Circumstances of Death / Dyddiad ac amgylchiadau marwolaeth:

Killed in action 3rd August 1917

Joseph was first seen on a census in1891.  Joseph E. Jones  2 had been born in Hawarden, Flintshire and was living with his family at Sandycroft, Saltney, Cheshire.  His father, Joseph Jones 38 was a General Labourer who came originally from Flintshire.  His mother Elizabeth 42, had been born in Liverpool. The other listed children were  Annie 10, Beatrice  7 and Charlotte G  all three, scholars and  all born in Crewe, Cheshire. There was a 24 year old boarder Thomas W. Seales.

By the 1901 census the family had moved to live in Beef Steak Row, Hawarden, Flintshire.  Head of the household, Joseph 48 was a ‘Foundry Labourer’ at the Iron Foundry. His wife Elizabeth was 52. Beatrice was  17,  Joseph E. was  12 and there was a ‘ visitor’, William Walker  2 who had been born in Hawarden.

The 1911 census reveals that with the family still living in Beefsteak Row, Elizabeth had died as  father, Joseph 57  was listed as a widower and a General Labourer.   Daughter Beatrice 27, was still at home and single. Charlotte 25 was also single.  Joseph was 22 and an Iron Worker.  A grandson, James Jones 6 months old was in the household.

Joseph married  in St. Mark’s Church, Connah’s Quay on  the 28th September 1912. He was 23 and an Ironworker. His bride was Mary Matilda Knowles (Page 247 No 494)

UK soldiers who died in the Great War 1914 -19, accessible on www.ancestry.co.uk confirms the regimental information above and adds that he was born in Hawarden and enlisted in Chester.

Joseph’s medal card also accessible on ancestry, records his medal details and also tells us that his regiment was the 8th Bn and his first Theatre of War was France and that he entered it on 28th September 1915.

Joseph Jones in the UK, Army Registers of Soldiers’ Effects, 1901-1929 tell us that the Legatees were his widow Mary M. & child who were paid £4. 12s 8d on the 26th January 1918 and his War Gratuity of £14, which was paid to her in 2 amounts, the first one of £4.13s 4d was paid on the 20th October 1919 and the other of £9. 6s 8d was paid on the 9th December 1919.

Jones, J. Name on the Menin Gate. Photo taken on the 16th April 2016 by Mavis Williams

Joseph’s name on the Menin Gate. Photo taken on the 16th April 2016 by Mavis Williams

There is an index card for Joseph Jones in The Flintshire Roll of Honour at The County Record office in Hawarden. (Flintshire WW1 Cards. Connah’s Quay F 36) it confirms the regimental details above and gives the address  8, High Street,  Connah’s Quay, Flintshire. It adds that he served from the 29th August 1914 and that he was Killed at Ypres August 1917. The card was  signed on the 19th September 1919 by Mrs. Jones

 

There was a Pte J Jones named on a plaque in Wepre  Presbyterian Church.

Wepre Presbyterian Church Memorial Tablet unveiled - County Herald 9th September 1919 2

Wepre Presbyterian Church Memorial Tablet unveiled - County Herald 9th September 1919 3

On the 9th September 1919,  The County Herald named a Pte. J. Jones, “who fell on 21st August 1915.”    I do not know if this relates to Joseph, but it could be as I believe there is another date error on this plaque with another soldier.

The County Herald dated Friday 25th August 1917 included  on their “Roll of Honour”  Private J. Jones of High Street, Connah’s Quay.

JONES, J. Roll of Honour County Herald 25th August 1917 2

Also in the County Herald dated 7th September 1917, a list of casualties was published, among them was – “Killed – South Lancshire Regt. – Jones 16425, Corporal J. (Connah’s Quay)”

Joseph is also remembered on the Hawarden War Memorial and is named on the Memorial Plaque in St.Mark’s Church, Connah’s Quay.

I do not know if this refers to the right woman, but thanks to Bill Tyrell, who allowed me access to the Minutes of the the Conservative Club Shotton where in a meeting on the 9th October 1916 the committee voted to give financial help to sixteen widows of the area.   However there were 2 Mrs. Joneses, one was Mrs. J. Jones, Primrose Street and the other was a Mrs. R (or N) Jones, High Street, who were each given 5/-. Please click on the link to read the names of the others who were mentioned in the minutes.   Married women were mostly known by their husbands name, for example, i.e. Mrs Joseph Jones.